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Re: DICK CHENEY
I understand you greencrest, but I'm fairly sure drinking is a sin. Can I quote scripture...no. But, just like smoking or anything else, it is harmful to the body. The Bible talks about how your body is a temple.\
I'm no saint, but I am fairly set in my ways. You're right, some people drink beer like soda pop, but this is a secular world in which we live. The same one that promotes abortion, gays, greed, murder, living together without getting married, premarital sex, etc...
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Re: DICK CHENEY
I do not know that much about the Bible and I do know lpd06 is right about your body being a temple, but what if a person looks at it like this and for this reason only: "I drink one beer a week for the SOLE purpose of flushing the fluids out of my kidneys and cleaning my system."
if they are drinking for the right reason, then would that constitute as good enough reason to drink. I mean, since you body is like a temple, you are only drinking that beer to try and help provide a healthier body for yourself. That person does not drink for the buzz, but yet one a week to help the body. IS that still wrong or would a situation like this, even if it recommended by a doctor, be sufficient enough to say that this isn't a sin? [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Re: DICK CHENEY
great question. Things like that make me wonder a lot. I'm sure though that drinking to be drinking is wrong. A lot of people have a difficult time accepting that, but they have a lot of things they don't easily accept...
It's never easy to stand up for what's right.
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Re: DICK CHENEY
It's more a thing I've been told of "desecrating" the temple. If you do something intentionally to hurt your body & endanger your health, you're desecrating the temple. If you drink a beer a day to keep the kidneys flowing, you're trying to add to the health so you can better use the temple, your body, to worship God. That's what I think.
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Re: DICK CHENEY
I was kind of thinking the same thing, but humans acknowldge situations through previous knowledge we have gained from many ways. The first thing most people think of when beer is mentioned is that the person drinking is wanting to get drunk or if they see someone out having a beer, they automatically think alcoholic or something to that affect.
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Re: DICK CHENEY
If you are using the logic that beer is harmful to your body, which constitutes it being a sin, which I am not disagreeing with by any means, then shouldnt people quit drinking pop and eating Big Mac's, lord knows those things can be just as harmful to your health as anything else if not more harmful.
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Re: DICK CHENEY
true true...I have never thought of that in these kind of terms (dealing with religion and beer)
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Re: DICK CHENEY
He shot a guy- hahaha, it is pretty simple- if he is too stupid to avoid shooting his hunting buddies, [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] I don't need him helping to run the country. I can see it now, "I didn't mean to launch an atomic strike against Iran, I only had one beer!"
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Re: DICK CHENEY
Anybody that has ever been bird hunting knows how dangersous it can be. If you are not alert at all times then it is extremely dangerous. Im not so sure how much attention and alertness a 78 year old man can have.
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Re: DICK CHENEY
Drinking "beer" is not covered in the Bible, although some think "strong drink" referred to beer. Some would like to think that Jesus never drank wine. I don't buy that, anymore than I believe that He was only an average Joe.
If we use the logic that you shouldn't partake of a particular thing because it is harmful to your body (the Temple), then we will have to quit eating and drinking 98% of what we do now. Its all about excess. Drinking until you lose control, or to the point that you are easily influenced to do something that you normally wouldn't do is where the sin part comes in.
Folks like to quote Leviticus 10:8-10 when admonishing others to not drink. However, these instructions were given to priests who were about to enter the temple to perform religious rites. God wanted to make sure their faculties were completely about them. Nazarites were also instructed not to partake of wine...or even grapes! (Examples are Samuel, Samson, John the Baptist) They were a special, called-out servant of God chosen for a particular task. Some say Proverbs 20:1 seems to prohibit the use of wine or strong drink, but it is actually showing the personification of the end result of having too much...a drunkard. The 31st chapter actually recommends the use of wine or strong drink in certain situations. Isaiah decrees woe to the drunkard in chapter 5, (not the partaker). Again in chapter 28 he admonishes priests and judges who are too drunk to fulfill their duties. We are also warned against drunkeness in Luke, 1st Corinthians, and 1st Thessalonians.
Drinking really becomes a personal issue that you have to work out for yourself. I don't think the Bible forbids it...I think it warns us as to the dangers of overindulgence, something that is not pleasing to God whether it be food, drink, or material things.
Bottom line: If you think its wrong, don't do it! If you think there's nothing wrong with it, then don't offend someone who believes otherwise by partaking in front of them!